Obama Knew Details From Wiretapped Flynn Phone Calls, Surprising Top DOJ Official: Documents

WASHINGTON, DC – JUNE 13: U.S President Barack Obama speaks as Vice President Joe Biden listens during a meeting with FBI Director James Comey, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, Director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) Nicholas Rasmussen, and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates in the Oval Office of the White House June 13, 2016 in Washington, DC. President Obama received an update on the investigation into the attack in Orlando, Florida. (Photo by Alex Wong/Getty Images)

BY ZACHARY STIEBER May 8, 2020 Updated: May 8, 2020

Outgoing President Barack Obama revealed in early 2017 that he knew details from phone calls incoming Trump administration National Security Advisor Michael Flynn made, surprising one of the Department of Justice’s top officials, according to newly released documents.

The department on Thursday moved to dismiss the criminal case against Flynn that rested on the phone calls.

Sally Yates, the deputy attorney general at the time, recalled meeting with Obama at the White House on Jan. 5, 2017, along with a number of other officials, including then-FBI Director James Comey.

After dismissing everyone but Yates, Comey, then-National Security Advisor Susan Rice, and then-Vice President Joe Biden, Obama told them he had “learned of the information about Flynn” and the lieutenant general’s discussion with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.ADVERTISING

Kislyak’s phone calls were being wiretapped by government officials, allowing them to hear what Flynn told him.

Obama told the trio he didn’t want additional information about the matter but wanted to know whether the White House should, in light of the information, treat Flynn differently.

Yates “was so surprised by the information she was hearing that she was having a hard time processing it and listening to the conversation at the same time,” FBI agents who interviewed her wrote in a report about the interview.

Yates told the agents that she didn’t know what Obama was talking about but figured it out based on the conversation. She did not know who told Obama about the details. She recalled Comey mentioning the Logan Act, a centuries-old law that’s never been successfully prosecuted.

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FBI Director James Comey testifies as Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates listens during Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington on July 8, 2015. (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

Flynn was head of the Defense Intelligence Agency during the Obama administration. The president fired him for alleged insubordination.

Comey told members of Congress in March 2017 that he briefed then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on the wiretapped phone calls in late December 2016 or early January 2017.

Clapper briefed Obama, Biden, and Obama’s senior team about the calls and other related matters, Comey said.

“We did not disseminate this [redacted] in any finished intelligence, although our people judged was appropriate, for reasons that I hope are obvious, to have Mr. Flynn’s name unmasked,” Comey said, according to a newly declassified transcript.

Unmasking is a term used by intelligence officials for revealing the name of a U.S. citizen.

The two documents were released on May 7 by the Justice Department as part of its motion to dismiss the case against Flynn.

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President-elect Donald Trump, left, stands with National Security Adviser Lt. General Michael Flynn at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, where he is holding meetings on Dec. 21, 2016. (Jim Watson/AFP via Getty Images)

The Department of Justice moved Thursday to dismiss the case, arguing the Jan. 24, 2017, interview of Flynn “was untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn.”

The investigation itself was “no longer justifiably predicated,” said Timothy Shea, interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, in the motion to dismiss. “The FBI had, in the Bureau’s own words, prepared to close because it had yielded an ‘absence of any derogatory information,’” he added.

Flynn pleaded guilty to one count of lying during the interview but recently moved to withdraw his plea.

Because the interview wasn’t done as part of a legitimate investigation, “we feel really that a crime cannot be established here,” Attorney General William Barr told CBS on Thursday.

The call in question with Kislyak contained “nothing inconsistent with the Obama administration’s policies, and … was in U.S. interests,” he said.

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